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Comics and me

Journal Entry: Sun Apr 27, 2014, 4:42 AM
I've only been working on my web comic for a little while, but I think it's taught me an important lesson, and that is I'm a bit rubbish at comics.

I mostly think I can draw - or at least I can make a thing look like a thing - and that's fine for static images, but I don't think I seem suited to sequential narrative. I hammer away at it, but I don't think it ever really works. My style has always been a realistic one, or at least I've tried to make it so, as the likes of Frank Bellamy were always my heroes, but that seems to be so out of sync with what's popular now that I seem to be wasting my time on doing these. I've never really understood the style or appeal of the manga-influenced wave of art, and I've always shied away from the Kirby-esque power style of the mainstream US comics, and that has really shown whenever I've tried to work in that style.

This mood could be caused be a few things I guess. It's a rainy Sunday, and that's always bad. I seem to have posted Jaguar on a site where the community is just dreadful and that's disheartening. It could be just one of my periodic 'I can't bloody draw moods'. Whatever it is, I think it's best for my own piece of mind that I scale back on trying to work sequentially.

Pants.

  • Listening to: The Clash
  • Reading: Flashman
  • Watching: Nothing really
  • Playing: Second Son
  • Eating: Bacon
  • Drinking: Wine and coffee
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Colorist-OctaviaMoon Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I feel the same way....I write comics about people....sometimes extra ordinary in their own way but they are just about people and life and not about jumping off buildings or moodily springing in to save the day. Less 'action' means less opportunity to construct a dynamic page. I've read all the books and watched the people I admire and I still find my stuff is stilted and flat :( That apologue series and your IRON comic show that none of this is true about you, though...there is real life and depth in your visual story telling....if you want to tell a story in a series of images then you have mastered that - who needs speed lines and big fists comin' at ya through the panel border? Not I...for one :)
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JonathanWyke Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014   General Artist
Thanks very much! I go through this thing every now and again, wishing I could get the hang of doing that super-dynamic stuff, but thankfully it wears off! It's just like what everyone else goes through I guess, you just have to practice, practice, practice to try and improve, and hope you can produce something interesting along the way!
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PinPastor Featured By Owner May 1, 2014   Artist
Keep it up, youre brewing good stuff. What made me look deeper into your art is your drawing quality. And that, imho, is the key to make great comics. Though i might endulge myself with some manga now and then (due to the fact that im a comic addict), im educated in "european" comic style. The big difference i find between them is the amount of love and care spent in making them: "european" authors spend a year making an awesome comic; manga authors spit them in a fortnight. The former is a work of art, the later is a product for comsuption. 
And moods... they swing.
Cheers
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JonathanWyke Featured By Owner May 2, 2014   General Artist
Thanks for the kind words. I think you're right about the difference between most manga and most european comics, and that's fine. It's the spread of the stylised-without-knowing-what-they're-stylising that's bugging me a little. Still, I'm actually coming out of my sulk about this, so that's a good thing!
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abc142 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Professional General Artist
I sincerely think your style is great for sequentials. It makes me think of Andrea Sorrentino or David Aja, some excellent sequential storytellers with a realistic style. And their work is not less creative than what we see from anime/cartoony artists, to say the least.
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JonathanWyke Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014   General Artist
Thanks very much! I know about David Aja's work but Andrea Sorrentino is new to me, and I'll be certain to check it out. I'm coming out of my blue mood concerning comics a little now, and hope the best thing I can do is work through it.
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Lightning-Powered Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
it's true that in most of the comic industry especially in the US most artists are being selected due to their animation style work, and that stems from the popularity of the animation industry today (which is thanks to ANIME). Technically it was always this way since the 30's up to the 80's American animation was defined by ITSELF having little outside influence until Japanese animation and technology dominated and outperformed the American studios... Hanna Barbara was one of the last US studios to shut down, and cartoons have been made in Korea ever since....

i said all of that in case you wanted to know what "the big deal" about anime was since you said you didn't understand its appeal. your art is incredible and i would love to see more of it even in the comics today - all styles have their place. but in the end it's up to you: it is VERY HARD TO MAKE COMICS, and very few people can survive. if you're absolutely determined and a little crazy (ha!) YOU CAN MAKE IT.

but no one will blame you if you don't want to.
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JonathanWyke Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014   General Artist
Thanks! I think it's the stylised natureof what's going on at the moment that escapes me. It seems that the artists have either forgotten, ignored or don't know about anatomy, and build their worlds from there.
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Lightning-Powered Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Professional General Artist
it's true. unfortunately, with this boom in the animation, comic book and movie industries, come a lot of chaff to sort through. many artists these days try to "jack" another successful artist's style in the hope that people will pick them up - sometimes it works, and other times they don't get very far past that one deal. the reason in my opinion, is that they don't understand WHY that artist's style worked for them and the only way to do it is to hear it directly from them, and to see them create - guys like Glen Keane, Drew Struzan, Andrew Loomis, and Will Eisner... these guys had the FOUNDATION that allowed them to draw anything in any style they needed and that's why their work stands the test of time, why they have copycats and true students, who won't just learn from them, but make their OWN way.

sorry that was so long! ^^;
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Merrk Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
I don't know where you're posting it other than here, but it's looking great so far. I read loads of comics and your art works great in sequentials. Set your own pace sure, but be sure to give it a real good go before you give it up. You might just need to find your groove.
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